Craptastic Thoughts from IBBB Readers!

1. Mandy Said,

   Good decision. I couldn’t help but think of you the whole time I watched last night, like “no way would Patrick even touch this.”
   One perfectly touchable person/part is the counselor, though. WTH was wrong with her voice? So quiet… So monotone.
   Anyway, I applaud your high road stance here and will be waiting with bated breath for the Teen Mom recap.

2. IBBB Said,

   Haha thanks! Yeah, 5 minutes in and I said, “I’m not touching this with a ten foot pole.” And I have one. Hey-oh!

   Anyone, the “counselor” appeared to be on “the meth” that all the kids are wild about these days. I too was thinking about why everyone was basically whispering.

   Sad all around. I said to myself, if this baby doesn’t make it I’m quitting life…just like my little Amber is trying to quit life.

   -IBBB

3. Shannon Said,

   Good choice. I couldn’t stop myself from thinking “How in the Holy Green Hell is IBBB going to recap this episode?” the entire time. “Even Patrick isn’t that much of an asshole” Although….I don’t feel terrible making fun of the “counselor.” If anyone should have had subtitles in that episode it should have been her.

4. Anne Said,

   Yeah, I agree on this choice.

   Overall, I just felt really awful for these folks. I about lost it when they surprised her in the hospital with a baby shower.

   Excited for 6.12.12.

5. Emz Said,

   Poor girl. I believe I read on Starcasm that she has already gotten married to another guy. I hope that heals her heart.

   I ask one favor of our dearest Patrick. There are supposed to be back to back episodes of Teen Mom on the 12th, PLEASE recap BOTH!! I’m starting to get the shakes from excitement.

   6.12.12

6. Conspiracy Man Said,

   I will touch it with some kind of pole.

   The entire time that this girl was in the hospital, all I could think was that this little stay was costing as much as my entire college education and the educations of about 5 or 6 more people. When the baby was placed in intensive care for weeks, the education count ramped into the double digits for a baby that will likely be costing me even more money in the juvenile justice system in a few more years. I guess all you have to do is die in an act of brazen stupidity to automatically be transformed from an idiot teen sperm donor into a saint (we aren’t told what happened in full detail, so you know it was stupid).

   This guy just looked like the type who would be bringing the girl a bouquet of potato chip flowers in a matter of weeks, but now he is the greatest person who ever lived. His mother couldn’t be troubled to sober up for any time she made an appearance on camera. When the girl goes into expensive premature labor with St. Whats-his-name’s baby two months prematurely, why didn’t these people take that as a sign from the deity who commanded that they not get an abortion?

   Why didn’t they let nature take its course? I love paying for the mistakes of these lowlife geniuses. You know that the public is paying for this non-abortion and that MTV didn’t step up to the plate and pay the bills. MTV gets their drama on the cheap and leave the rest of us to pay the price.

7. Conspiracy Man Said,

   I know that these thoughts are exceedingly cruel, but please refrain from judging me until 20 years from now, when junior is languishing in the state penitentiary. I realize that the heroic actions of the hospital staff saved a baby’s life, but when is natural selection allowed to run its course.

   OK. Now please begin telling me how cruel and stupid I am. I am ready for it.

8. Conspiracy Man Said,

   Finally –

   And what was with the mumbles? Is MTV’s subtitling equipment on the fritz?

9. Conspiracy Man Said,

   The young mother married another guy, just 8 months after she gave birth to the baby. She did not have her GED before marrying this guy. There are some mental and emotional problems with this girl and her family that were obviously hidden by the MTV editing. Of course the baby’s father was the greatest guy who ever grew a goatee at age 16- her every romantic interest is serious.

10. Conspiracy Man Said,

    And nobody wants to assert any parental authority to put the brakes on her.

11. Matt's Sweaty Bangs Said,

    All I can say is you know you’re pregnant (don’t worry, I’m not a teenager or tween) when an episode of 16 and condoms are not just for balloon animals makes you cry.

12. donna Said,

    i,too was wondering how patrick would recap this.the thing i noticed through the whole episode was kristinas mom acting like it was her fiance,not kristinas that died.that got old real fast.

13. Preemie mom Said,

    Just a response to Conspiracy Man – You say “Why not let nature take it course?” I could ask your mom that same question. Every baby deserves to live, and even preemies can be brave little fighters.

    This is coming from a mama of a 3 year old little boy, born 7 weeks early at 4lbs. I would venture a guess that he’s smarter than you. I would also take a guess that your tax dollars won’t be affected, as you’re probably not even employed.

    Keep your hatefulness to yourself!

14. Conspiracy Man Said,

    I admit that I had hateful thoughts. I expected this. Let me have it, but please do not put words in my mouth – I did not say every premature baby did not deserve to live. I was just saying that I was rooting for natural selection to take its course in this one specific, particular instance. I was being honest. It just rubbed me the wrong way that the father suddenly became the greatest person to walk the earth, just because he was dead. Sorry.

    I have not had a premature baby, but I am currently living with someone with inoperable, terminal cancer (she also gave me hell for my hateful opinions last night. . . far worse than you just did). I don’t wish any medical problems on anyone (and I know exactly how bad they suck), but I just can’t root for those people who are placed in these positions as a result of their own foolish actions. I want to see the alligator eat the alligator wrestler. If you think you are mature enough to have children at age 16, then I hope that you get to experience all the possible consequences of your decision.

    I am glad that your boy is doing well, and your family deserves every bit of happiness.

15. Brenda Walsh Said,

    This was just an all-around sad episode. At first I thought the mom of her fiance was on drugs, but the more she talked it seemed like her mouth drooped on one side, so I am thinking she had a stroke or something. So that was sad, and not at all amusing. Kristina’s mom was awful though-I don’t blame Kristina for moving in with her aunt. How are you supposed to deal when your mom won’t stop crying and talking about it? And feels the need to tell your college admissions counselor all about it?

    For the record, to the person who said they must have been doing something dumb, I googled the articles from his death. Apparently they were caught in a rip tide, but the lifeguard says they were standing in waist deep water and panicked, jumped on top of him, and nearly drowned HIM. So maybe if they hadn’t panicked they would have been ok? I don’t know. What I do know is that my google search turned up a very surprising number of drowning deaths at Galveston Beach. That place is like a death trap!

16. Conspiracy Man Said,

    That is interesting news about the beach at Galveston.

    [I removed a link in case that this is not acceptable]

    With a Google search, you can find a series of email exchanges between grandmother (Todd’s mom) and otehr people. She alleges that Christina wanted him dead because of a potential custody dispute. She also claims that Christina was “faking it” during the MTV filming, anbd that she was happy her son was dead. I have heard that she retracted these statements, but I think that there was more to the story than we saw. I am sorry, but I just did not feel the love for these people.

17. Wednesdaystreat Said,

    So, yeah, I was also thinking HOW will IBBB deal with THIS?? I think you did a good job, Patrick. You touched on the great points (like her Mom’s GLASSES WTH??? They went from white tape to a black version in an attempt to conceal it??? ) and the counselor who was obviously the prime example of “I have more problems than ANY of my clients. Namely, I consume many drugs.”

    But, I had a question as to why suddenly they took the baby when it would have helped him to stay in for AT LEAST three or so more weeks? She was just laying there, and she didn’t seem in distress. The doctor said, “Staying here isn’t making anything progress.” Well, NO, but since she’s not in distress and any time in there is better than not, how about just waiting it out?? I can see if she was in full on labor and they couldn’t’ stop it, but what?? Maybe Medicaid said enough is enough, but that’s just sad and wrong!

18. SZ Said,

    I’m confused about something, can someone explain this? Kristina lives with her aunt – ok. The aunt is married/living with Todd’s brother? Is that right? Is that a coincidence, or how they met?

    I missed the first 30 seconds and apparently also missed the discussion about the complicated relationships.

    Also, she’s now married and her new last name is Head. Janelle’s fiance’s last name is also Head – coincidence? (Twilight Zone music……)

19. Wednesdaystreat Said,

    SZ, yes, Kristina lives with her aunt because she “doesn’t’ get along” with her mom.” She did meet Todd when she was living there–who is her aunt’s, husband’s brother. As far as I can describer, there is NO actual relation between Todd and Kristina. But yes, complicated.

20. Preemie mom Said,

    Wednesdaystreat – The only thing I can maybe even determine, is that if the baby had a form of IUGR, and wasn’t growing or receiving enough nutrients inside, then occassionally doctors make the decision to induce to give the baby a better chance of growing in a nicu environment. Especially since she made it to 32-34 weeks.

    I can’t imagine even Meticaid making a determination like that.

21. Kelly Said,

    Conspiracy man, you are so disrespectful. Nobody called the guy a hero. The family was grieving, how do expect them to act? Maybe he didn’t make the smartest decisions all the time, but that doesnt mean he wasnt a good person. The way you talk about the situation almost makes it seem as though you feel he deserved to die. If you did not mean it to sound that way then maybe you should be more mindful of how you word things. Have some respect.

22. The Other Lindsay Said,

    Conspiracy Man, you should really do the math and figure out how much of “yooooour tax dollars” go towards what.

23. Sara Said,

    I couldn’t even brave it to watch the episode. I refuse to let one little episode of pure sadness skew my Grinch heart into feeling sorry for these teen “moms.” So because I have a soul and knew this episode would be painful to watch I opted for Tosh.0. Nothing makes you feel better about yourself than watching nameless losers debase themselves for the sake of YouTube glory.

24. Sara Said,

    @Wednesdaystreat: From the previews I saw she was diagnosed with IUGR. What this means is that Mama’s womb is actually an inhospitable environment for the baby. Meaning if we want the baby to survive baby needs to come out, otherwise baby could very well stop developing and die inutero.

25. Wednesdaystreat Said,

    Ok. Good to know. I really wondered but also thought maybe it was MTVs great editing too.

26. Janelle's Ugly Toes Said,

    It never should have aired…MTV are greedy pigs and at some point have to have a bit of respect for the poors….they are people after all.

27. CrackinUp Said,

    I agree! Im not saying something this difficult and depressing shouldnt be on TV, but for this particular show, it was TOO MUCH. The sad part too, is that Kristina and her family agreed to be on the show.
    Man, this was very deep and sad and I just felt awful watching the entire thing! All the typical jokes about the white trash families living in the southern states went out the window for me.
    Oh and not to mention they didnt really get too much into the whole “being a teen mom is hard, stressful and not something you want to do”. The point was lost because all you could think of was how badly you felt for her raising the baby because the father tragically died. I think MTV went one step too far.

28. Dirty Darl Said,

    I seriously cannot contain my excitement for new Teen Mom!!!! Holy f*ck, I can’t believe the last season is upon us!!! Who knew it would ever end?

29. ShaNaeNae Said,

    Get ready for an MTV lifetime (3-4 seasons) of sadness. Word has it that she is one of the girls confirmed for TM3.

    I noticed the Head/Head reference (Janelle’s head and this chicks Head).

    I also remembering reading early on a big dispute between his family and her. I’m wondering if they were mad she moved on too fast and it was just a bunch of sour grapes.

    Though getting married at 18 (?) to a guy you barely know, 8 months after you pushed a head that’s not your fiances Head (take it as you will) our of your flower then I would call that a not using your Head decision. Ba-Ching!

30. Joe's Rap Career Said,

    … I have not watched the episode and I’m kinda thinkin I won’t (hashtag SAD). Good choice on the (non) recap, IBBB, can’t wait for June 12th!

    Just so we don’t all lose our special IBBB bond between seasons…should we all possibly be FB friends/Twitter followers? Yes, no?

31. Welcome to Miami, OK Said,

    Well this was sad. I haven’t cried on n episode since Caitlyn gave her baby up for adoption- unless you count crying from laughter when Gary fell through the stairs.

    I wanted to know if they decided to be on the show before or after the death.

32. JustAnotherTeenMom Said,

    Have to say I was with everyone else on how you were going to recap this. Utterly tragic. BUT how precious that he was able to have a son so that part of him was still with them. Makes me cry. Anyways would you pretty pretty please recap both episodes of the premeir of teen mom for the lack of this one?

33. Birth Canal CLOSED Said,

    I only caught the last 10 or so minutes of this episode, so didn’t get the back story or establish any emotional connection with the teen mom. The part I did see showed me very rough handling of this fragile premie baby on the part of the teen mom, and a very detached attitude in the brief minutes they chose to air. The comments above have helped me understand a bit more of the dynamics involved. Conspiracy Man, I understand your comments–I won’t say that I would agree with you completely–but I understand where you are coming from. So sad for the baby–poor kid, things can only get better from here for him???????

34. Your Puffy Leather Said,

    I’m just wondering why the doctors let Kristina’s mother take the baby out of the operating room immediately after he was born? Wasnt the baby premature and needed help breathing? That doesn’t really seem safe. Smh.

35. Amy Said,

    I can’t comment too much on this episode, as I live in New Zealand and probably won’t see it for another six months, but judging by the comments above, I’m wondering if it should have even aired. MTV needs to draw the line somewhere – if the boyfriend died during filming they should have canned the episode. Instead they sign the young girl up to (probably) be the biggest cash cow of the franchise so far. Let’s hope she got a decent bonus to go along with the exploitation.

    Patrick, you made a good call!

36. Amy Said,

    Also, given that Farrah didn’t seem to give a hoot about her ex-boyfriend during her 16 and Pregnant episode and he wasn’t even mentioned during the entire first season of Teen Mom, I wonder whose idea it was to suddenly bring up his death in the second season and milk the storyline for all it was worth? Hers or the producers??

    I remember an episode when Farrah was crying over the phone to Debra about how she’d lost the love of her life and the person she thought she would be growing old with. Debra MIGHT have sounded like she was holding back tears on the other end of the phone, but I’m convinced it was the sound of her stifling her laughter.

    Either way, I’m still looking forward to reading the latest re-cap in a couple of weeks – they are the only reason I’m still bothering to even tune in to these trash bags.

37. Amy Said,

    Last comment, I promise – the fact that this was chosen to be the final episode of the season (I think), plus I’m willing to bet that it was twice as long as usual, supports my theory that all MTV cares about is the drama and the original concept of the show went out of the window a long time ago.

38. Joe's Rap Career Said,

    @Amy, I agree with you completely and was wondering the same thing myself.

39. matt's bong Said,

    This whole season of 16 and prego has been a snoozefest. Bring on Ambuuuhh (Indiana’s newest prison inmate) Bint-Lee, Debra’s Trash Claw, and the Butch and April Show!